tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11635675.post4283844964261428077..comments2023-10-29T05:11:37.677-07:00Comments on Porcupine blog: Believers and Non-Believers.Larry Gambonehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04965037776214596919noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11635675.post-44479916767036577222007-06-06T14:34:00.000-07:002007-06-06T14:34:00.000-07:00Larry - fantastic post. I think this is one of th...Larry - fantastic post. I think this is one of the more insightful blog posts I've read in several months. Thanks for the enjoyable read.<BR/><BR/>I think the one problem which I see with your attempt to reconcile the Divine with anarchism -- and to be fair, you do acknowledge it yourself in the last paragraph -- is that your formulation ultimately rests on a conception of God which is so radically altered that I believe most theists or deists would reject it. The reification of the Hegelian Absolute, I would argue, is anathema to anarchism -- even if we take the reified being in a gnostic sense. Power doesn't need to be exercised in a malevolent fashion in order to be anathema to anarchism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11635675.post-53382027186694560662007-06-01T10:58:00.000-07:002007-06-01T10:58:00.000-07:00"Neither God nor Master!"such a great quote. nice..."Neither God nor Master!"<BR/><BR/>such a great quote. nice postrabsteenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17062360163760118120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11635675.post-91566787349809035102007-05-29T20:37:00.000-07:002007-05-29T20:37:00.000-07:00Like I said: Totally Nuts!Like I said: Totally Nuts!Mr. Beer N. Hockeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07184518909716677938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11635675.post-9904758326998930122007-05-29T13:55:00.000-07:002007-05-29T13:55:00.000-07:00god and anarchism...welli do believe in some sort ...god and anarchism...<BR/>well<BR/>i do believe in some sort of god, nonetheless i think he is somewhere else and everywhere but not like mighty big brother, Nietzche didn't kill god, society killed him when he was no lo longer useful, when he was no longer a good excuse. <BR/>The conception of god given in occident is that of someone watching and guiding everything we do and think, in this way God is and excuse; once i got into and argumente because i had a girlfriend who was drug addict and his mother was a radical christian, she would say something like "what can i do, it is a choice of god", there are two things i can get from this behavior:<BR/>first, i can't do nothing because i depend on someone elses choice, second, i don't have to anything because that's the choice of god and he does everything all right. <BR/>this is the kind of god i do not like, it's the same attitude of the fake existencialists, the don't have to do anything because everything's lost already. <BR/>As i see it god (if it exists) gave us a paradise and never kicked us out of there, he does not tell us what to do, that's up to us and we have to deal with the responsability of our acts in this life, anarchism is all about being responsable without the need of someone bigger and powerful telling us how and why we have to do it. <BR/>Anarchism might as well work pretty good with good in the sense that he does not rule us or judge us, maybe he's just a giver and it is our choice to do whatever we want with that given to us.Rhinoceruzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086150806815062815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11635675.post-14736077062600099132007-05-29T10:50:00.000-07:002007-05-29T10:50:00.000-07:00I'm an anarchist and a student of the Law of One, ...I'm an anarchist and a student of the <A HREF="http://lawofone.info" REL="nofollow">Law of One</A>, which is a spiritual and metaphysical study based on the proposition that all things can be seen as one without separation and distinction. I find this idea of the "Totality" congruent with what I embue as "divine" (yes, I do accept that I give the "divine" its nature through my perception, but I think that's the basis of all we experience). My experience has been that there is also an intelligent , if not human, aspect to this Totality; that intelligence coalesces at various levels of hierarchical organization. <BR/><BR/>The implications of belief in the divine are interesting. Positing a balance to the universe and within all its systems comprises a major clue to the possibilities of achieving an optimal organizing ethic for humans. Also, the intelligent aspect of the universe seems to underlie a natural hierarchical organization to things. Of course, while I don't buy conservative conceptions of social hierarchies, I don't discount the possibility that one exists naturally - I just believe that, if that's true, it shouldn't require coercion to maintain if it's so <EM>natural</EM>.<BR/><BR/>We'll probably always make atheists uncomfortable. But I believe that has more to do with their experiences with God and religion than with our actions. I would never want somebody to believe in something based on "blind faith" - any more than I'd discount my experiences based on their authority.<BR/><BR/>By the way, many thanks for the mention of Dietzgen. I had never heard of him but he sounds very much in line with my beliefs. I definitely find his theories of a "materialistic" approach to God interesting - indeed, it reminds me of Stirner's approach: to locate the source of the spiritual, the divine outside ourselves is a choice that robs us of our power.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11635675.post-39484464642619455882007-05-27T20:37:00.000-07:002007-05-27T20:37:00.000-07:00We have been on the same wavelength today. While I...We have been on the same wavelength today. While I was in the swirlpool today I watched about half an hour of a Memorial Service in a church Down South some place. The preacher, who looked like a grown up college quarterback, was bookended by two flags. The choir was singing about bombing the dickens out of people for Freedom and God, not necessarily in that Order.<BR/><BR/>I thought, "These people are Totally Nuts."<BR/><BR/>If religion did not make people crazy I would be more sympathetic to them and their wacky ideas. Bakunin was right on all counts.Mr. Beer N. Hockeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07184518909716677938noreply@blogger.com